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Proud Hamo wrote:Sorry I made a mistake with my post ua repeat isi upu ua tau leaga fo'i mata..lol
O se tasi wrote:I can see that this topic is gonna be very controversial....oh well thats what its all about!!!! voicing your opinion
Proud Hamo wrote:Samoa is the craddle of polynesia thats my own humble opinion but that's my own humble opinion although we can not discount archeological sites and artifacts that are continued to be discovered in Fiji, and Tonga.Our oral traditions suggest that Samoa is and that Manu'a is where it all began.
SCOPA uso wrote:<quoted text>I hate to disagree with you on one count with this one sis and that is Manu'a is where it all began. Tui Manua, Tui Fiti and Tui Toga were titles bestowed by Tagaloa a Lagi who once resided in Lagituaiva. Lagituaiva is located at Uafato, Fagaloa on Upolu where the name Samoa originates from. Myth tells that when a member of Tagaloa a Lagi's clan took chicken from Lu Fasiaitu's flock, Lu went on a killing spree which resulted in him killing members of Tagaloa A Lagi's family. He started killing members of the clan from the 1st Heaven to the 8th when Tagaloa decided he will provide his daughter Leamoa as a sacrifice. Now I will not go into details but will stick with the origins. The name Samoa derives from a ban of chickens by Tagaloa a Lagi on his sacred grounds after having been forced to provide Leamoa as a sacrifice to Lu. When interpreted immediately into samoan,e SA MOA.In some parts of the Pacific, from the Cook Islands, Fiji, Tonga and NZ, you will find that there is an identical GOD they once worshiped and that is where Tagaloa comes in and the question is, where did Tagaloa once resided at?
Proud Hamo wrote:<quoted text>There are many different traditional stories of how the name of Samoa was found. Some account said that the name Samoa came from the name of Tu'iManu'a-i-le-moa some say that it came from sa moa of the TuiAtua (Luafasiaitu) and some came from some of Savea Si'uleo children (descendants).Manu'a is where TagaloaLagi and the Sa-Tagaloa clan resided
SCOPA uso wrote:<quoted text>My question then Proud, what achaelogical site on Manu'a evidently suggests this to be the case?
SCOPA uso wrote:<quoted text>I posted my last response without completing it. In asking that question, another evident that you suggested comes into mind. Savea Si'uleo existed after Tagaloaalagi was casted out by Lufasiaitu, whom you've agreed by naming the first Tui Atua, from lagituaiva and again, the titles Tui were bestowed by Tagaloaalagi at the time of his reign. There are achaelogical/historical sites to support this claim at this same place in Upolu. I haven't been to Manu'a so my argument is based on sites I have visited on Upolu and this is my own opinion without discrediting someone else's claim.
Proud Hamo wrote:Oh and don't forget the saying "O Manua o le tama matua" o Manua fo'i o le "fa'autaga".Manuia.
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