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-By Fikre Tolossa-
This information is based on on my reading of Ethiopian history and Metsehafe Djan Shewa, (an ancient Ethiopian manuscript in Geez discovered by Meri Ras Aman Belay, in the ruins of an Ethiopian church in Nubia, a part of the Ethiopian Empire) which has been, translated into Amharic, abridged and published as Metsehafe Subae by the discoverer himself.

According to this ancient manuscript, both the Amara and the Oromo are the descendants of one man or father- Melchizedek, King of Salem the highest priest of God on Earth, founder of Jerusalem to whom Abraham and other kings bowed and paid tithes to receive his blessings. About 2000 years before the birth of Jesus Christ, God ordered Melchizedek to send his son Ethel who was named as Ethiop later on by God, to go and settle in Ethiopia at the islands of Lake Tana, the source of the River Nile. God sent Ethel (meaning the gift of God) to Ethiopia, so that when God (Jesus Christ) is born as a human being 2000 years later, the descendants of Ethel would bring him to Bethlehem Ethiopian gifts such as yellow gold, myrrh and incense, led by a star which would appear in Ethiopia to lead them to Bethlehem. Accordingly Ethel went to Ethiopia and settled in what is today known as Gojjam. God changed his name from Ethel to "Ethiop" meaning "the gift of yellow gold to God". Thus, not only Ethel became Ethiop, but the land in which he settled also started to be called "Ethiopia". Lo and behold, 2000 years later, the descendants of Ethiop became 12 kings in the then Ethiopian Empire. They headed for Bethlehem with gifts led by the star which God had said would lead them. Now Ethiop begat 13 children- ten boys and three girls. The boys were: Atiba, Bior, Biora, Temna, Ater, Ashan, Azib, Berissa, Tesbi, Tola,and Azeb. The girls were, Loza, Milka and Suba. All of them became the fathers and mothers of many, many Ethiopian tribes. Out of the ten boys of Ethiop, I will take only the line of one of them- the line of Bior and show that the Amara and Oromo descend from him. Ethiop begat Bior, Bior begat Aram, Aram begat Nage who begat Hage, who begat Biora, who begat Belam (a prophet in the Sinai who prophesied the Birth of Jesus as a Star. He is in the Bible known as Baalam), Belam begat Keramid, who begat Shemshel (a female, great prophetess who was able to raise the dead). Shemshel begat Deshet. Her son Deshet too, became a major prophet who designed the Zodiac which was taken out of Ethiopia and did spread elsewhere in the world (http://tseday.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/eth... )

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Deshet, while meditating at the Bank of the River Nile about 15 hundred years before the birth of Jesus Christ saw in the foam of the River a vision of Mary, Jesus and the Star, that would lead his descendants to Bethlehem, and drew them on a tablet and passed the tablet to them. Now Deshet begat four sons who became the fathers of many Ethiopian tribes including the Amara and the Oromo. They are: Maji, Jimma, Mendi and Medebai. Maji begat Mara (Amara) and Jema or Jama (the people who settled at the River Jema in today's Shoa, a
river they named after their tribe.Jimma begat Geneti, Arerti and Moren. Out of Medebay descended the Oromo. In fact, before the Oromo were called Oromo during the reign of Menelik I about 2950 years ago, they used to be called Medebay. There are some in Ethiopia who are still called Medebay retaining their original name. There is a reason why they started being called "Gala" and "Oromo" then, but I won't dwell on it now. Later on, the children of Mara began to be called "A-mara" or "Ha-mara". The words, "A" and "Ha" were used as indicators. Thus the Oromo and Amara share the same father and grand father. It is tragic and unfortunate that the Oromo and the Amara have been misled to fight each other in the past and in our time. Both the Oromo and Amara originated in Gojjam. The Oromo didn't come from Asia or Madagascar, as Aleka Taye and other ill-informed historians suggest. Later, each tribe split and spread all over the breath and length of Ethiopia and even the rest of Africa to seek out their fortune. In the mean time, they developed different languages and cultures. The Oromo became pastoralists. The Amara specialized in warfare and administration. For example, when Axumite was a little boy he was crowned as the Pharaoh of Egypt by the name of Ramzes. It was the Amara who accompanied him all the way from Ethiopia to Egypt about 2850 years ago to protect his throne. About 350,000 Amaras went with him to Egypt. Some of them returned to Ethiopia only after 1850 years of stay in Egypt, accompanying King Lalibela to Ethiopia after his return from exile in Jerusalem. They built together with the local Agew people, the Rock Hewen Churches of Lalibela. Later, when Axumite found the city of Axum and became Emperor of Ethiopia, he gave his daughter Ribla in marriage to King Nabukedenesor of Babylon (today's Iraq). It was the Amara soldiers again who accompanied Ribla to Iraq. She found a city after her name. The Amara found a city called "Amara" in Iraq after their own name. The city of "Amara" exists to this day in Iraq (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/06/1... ). It was captured by Shiite Moslems about a year ago.

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I have an American newspaper in my possession which printed the capture of the city of "Amara" by the Shiites. Pertaining to the Amara language, it had already begun to evolve as far back as 3000 years ago.In fact, it had existed long before Geez. Menelik the I declared Geez as the official language of Ethiopia about 2950 years ago to honor and empower the Agazi, a tribe he brought from Gaaza which fought for him when Ethiopian tribes warred against him treating him as a Jewish "keles" who had ambition over the Ethiopian throne. Indeed, it had developed and evolved more than 3000 years; i.e, a while before Geez was decreed by Menelik I as the official language of Ethiopia by imposition. For instance, there are kings and throne names that have Amara names such as Zerffe and Sendek-alma in the list of Ethiopian kings who reigned before Queen Sheba, mother of Menelik I; as well ancient towns in Egypt known as Amarna (konjo honin) and Delta (we are comfortable, we are doing fine), in the region in which Jesus, Joseph and Mary found refuge 2000 years ago. When Menelik I was born, the Amara wondered what King Solomon would say about his son, Menelik, and called him "Menelik" (min yilik, abateh?). If the Amara
language didn't exist over 3000 years ago, how come they called Menelik, "Minyilik" about 3000 years ago? I think this word alone suffices to prove that Amaregna and the Amara had existed in Ethiopia more than 3000 years ago. This is what I wanted to say for now. If I find time, I will detail all this in an article. I have gathered all the literature that I need to prove my point. I am Fikre Tolossa, descendant of Melchitsedek, King of Salem, of Ethiop and Deshet, the prophet, as, of course, all of you, my fellow Ethiopians, are.

hope this will be an eye-opener for Ethiopians.

Did you ever pass in your mind that this is a legend, which has no proof who support that????

Oh by the way is well known the name Menelik means "son of wise".

THE REAL HABESHA wrote:
Did you ever pass in your mind that this is a legend, which has no proof who support that????
Oh by the way is well known the name Menelik means "son of wise".


well according to you ethiopian history is a legend or a myth... you know everything about ethiopia,you konw who's habesha who's not.... but you need to shut the hell up! your just dedeb agame and nothing more. kunasam.lol

This is interesting, but i fear a lot may have been misinterpreted since it would contradict with a big portion of our history for which written evidence exists. but it is very interesting to read and would love to hear more discussions on this.

I can't believe your dumb asses finally realize that a few of last year's topix posters were right. This info is so yesterday-- O.M.G.

what about the Tigre?

proethio wrote:
what about the Tigre?


Tigre aka Tigray do not share the same Amhara-Oromo roots. They are a totally different bloodline. They are primarily Nilotic sometimes combined with North African heritage, so no.

Some of you bastards are in denial, yet you are not in the Nile.

North Africa includes countries such as Mauritania, Algeria, and Egypt and is significantly black, contrary to common "idiocratic" belief systems. As you can see the Tigray have the same Nilotic appearance as the people of Northwest African of whom they are more closely related to than people in the Southern realms of Ethiopia.

http://www.africaguide.com/photolibrary/image...

proethio wrote:
what about the Tigre?


you mean tigrayan agame?hahahah because everyone knows the tigre and eritrean tigrigna together with the himyars and saho are descandants of sabteca who from his line came 2 of the 4 most powerful kings on earth....agame has nothing to do with this ancestory hence the discovery of the dahlaki people (himyars) and their language has proven that the agazains and himyarites were one tribe 4000-5000 years ago till the baby agazian splited and moved to the highland of eritrea...the dahlaki himyar and tigre which is considered to be the closest to geez is 90% similar...THE HABAB TIGRE WHICH MANY BELIEVE ARE THE MAIN COMPONENTS TOGETHER WITH THE BELEW KELEW BEJA CREATING THE BIHER TIGRIGNA TODAY ARE BELIEVED TO BE DESANDANTS OF THE GREAT 2 HORN KING (NOT ALEXANDER) WHO RULED THE WORLD FOR 200 YEARS AND ABRAHAM LIVED IN HIS ERA and respected him.THE AGAZIANS LIKE THE HIMYARITES WERE KNOWN TO BE TALL AND DETERMINED PEOPLE thats why you see eritrean kebesa and tigre on average are much taller than tigrayan who their ancestors the agews and habesh semites were known to be short.

Yenis Arthur Rollins wrote:
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Tigre aka Tigray do not share the same Amhara-Oromo roots. They are a totally different bloodline. They are primarily Nilotic sometimes combined with North African heritage, so no.


ere tew! lol

proethio wrote:
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ere tew! lol


Retrospectively, reflectively, and likewise who would argue? xaaqi xaaqi. lmao

Yenis Arthur Rollins wrote:
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Retrospectively, reflectively, and likewise who would argue? xaaqi xaaqi. lmao


no i was serious, and what does that mean? :-)

Ethioboi wrote:
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well according to you ethiopian history is a legend or a myth... you know everything about ethiopia,you konw who's habesha who's not....

Maybe you should start to learn something, instead to believe of things, who has no found, nor you are able to defende them, but one thing is funny of you amharas, no one of you lose the spirit and creativity about your own origin. I am here in this forum since 1 year, and i saw that some amhara believe according to their tradition that they are descendant of jews, but funny you call biet israel, falasha who is not a good word, then other amharas claim to be habesha, but again other amhara say they are descendants of Himyarites, and then is arrived you with this "legend" about your origin. About one thing i am sure you are confused people suffer of evident identitu crisis. Now let's see if you are able to defende what you believe or not.
You believe amhara and oromo have a common origin, they come from the king of Salem, but if you take a look the genetic about y-dna we know that 33.3% of amhara have HAPLOGROUP J1, while 14.6% have HAPLOGROUP A, 48.5% of you have HAPLOGROUP E3B, 2% instead have HAPLOGROUP J2 and so on, so is more than evident that the so called AMHARA people do not share the same origin and that the different haplogroups means different PLACES OF ORIGIN. Nor amhara, and oromo tradition spoke about it, just you, besides Oromo share the same ancestors, and culture with somalis, even their religion was the same.
You speak about an ethiopian church in Nubia, but is weird there is no article about discovery of it, but also if we ipotize is true about that, we can consider that the church were built in christian era and therefore among 4th A.C. century and 7th/8th century A.C. because in 7th or 8th century Beja started to arise in Sudan and axumite domain ended for what is about Sudan, after 8th century a.C. we know very well that the axumite kingdom declane, and that Amhara reign didnt arrive until Sudan (Nubia), therefore i am asking to you how is possible in the manuscript is spoken about king Lalibela, who came much later of manuscript writing, is a magic? and above all who is the fool that believe that AMHARA according to your source accompanied the king in Jerusalem and then they came back in Ethio, such history old of few centuries will be easily recorded in amhara chronical, BUT IS NOT. Neither the Kebre Negst talk about the half of your story.
Another funny thing is you put the king of Salem as the forefather of amhara and oromo, but is noted fact that king of Salem didnt have sons and therefore genealogy, just read in the bible Ebr7,1-4.

You said that Axumite a man who live about 2850 years ago, and that Menelik lived 2950 years ago, but according to Ethio tradition axumite found the city of Axum, and Menelik who came later found there his capitale, so what you say, have no sense, but above all can you explain me how is possible that Axumite give his daughter to king Nabukedenesor, because anyone know that Nabukedenesor reigned among 1127 until 1105, while axumite according to you (2850 years ago)and ethio tradition lived at least 1000 years before Nabukedenesor.
Also you claim amhara language is born before ge'ez, but funny all scholars and other experts agree that ge'ez is the father of amhara, and not the other way around, also to proof your point you use the meaning of the name Menelik, when is a well known fact Menelik means "son of wise".
Oh almost forgot can provide a link where IRAQIS talk about the city of AMARA, i mean who found, when, ect ect because otherwise you prove nothing.

THE REAL HABESHA wrote:
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Maybe you should start to learn something, instead to believe of things, who has no found, nor you are able to defende them, but one thing is funny of you amharas, no one of you lose the spirit and creativity about your own origin. I am here in this forum since 1 year, and i saw that some amhara believe according to their tradition that they are descendant of jews, but funny you call biet israel, falasha who is not a good word, then other amharas claim to be habesha, but again other amhara say they are descendants of Himyarites, and then is arrived you with this "legend" about your origin. About one thing i am sure you are confused people suffer of evident identitu crisis. Now let's see if you are able to defende what you believe or not.
You believe amhara and oromo have a common origin, they come from the king of Salem, but if you take a look the genetic about y-dna we know that 33.3% of amhara have HAPLOGROUP J1, while 14.6% have HAPLOGROUP A, 48.5% of you have HAPLOGROUP E3B, 2% instead have HAPLOGROUP J2 and so on, so is more than evident that the so called AMHARA people do not share the same origin and that the different haplogroups means different PLACES OF ORIGIN. Nor amhara, and oromo tradition spoke about it, just you, besides Oromo share the same ancestors, and culture with somalis, even their religion was the same.
You speak about an ethiopian church in Nubia, but is weird there is no article about discovery of it, but also if we ipotize is true about that, we can consider that the church were built in christian era and therefore among 4th A.C. century and 7th/8th century A.C. because in 7th or 8th century Beja started to arise in Sudan and axumite domain ended for what is about Sudan, after 8th century a.C. we know very well that the axumite kingdom declane, and that Amhara reign didnt arrive until Sudan (Nubia), therefore i am asking to you how is possible in the manuscript is spoken about king Lalibela, who came much later of manuscript writing, is a magic? and above all who is the fool that believe that AMHARA according to your source accompanied the king in Jerusalem and then they came back in Ethio, such history old of few centuries will be easily recorded in amhara chronical, BUT IS NOT. Neither the Kebre Negst talk about the half of your story.
Another funny thing is you put the king of Salem as the forefather of amhara and oromo, but is noted fact that king of Salem didnt have sons and therefore genealogy, just read in the bible Ebr7,1-4.
You said that Axumite a man who live about 2850 years ago, and that Menelik lived 2950 years ago, but according to Ethio tradition axumite found the city of Axum, and Menelik who came later found there his capitale, so what you say, have no sense, but above all can you explain me how is possible that Axumite give his daughter to king Nabukedenesor, because anyone know that Nabukedenesor reigned among 1127 until 1105, while axumite according to you (2850 years ago)and ethio tradition lived at least 1000 years before Nabukedenesor.
Also you claim amhara language is born before ge'ez, but funny all scholars and other experts agree that ge'ez is the father of amhara, and not the other way around, also to proof your point you use the meaning of the name Menelik, when is a well known fact Menelik means "son of wise".
Oh almost forgot can provide a link where IRAQIS talk about the city of AMARA, i mean who found, when, ect ect because otherwise you prove nothing.


You are the one who isnt talking right, because to me he is just giving guidlines! So u keep quiet, you are making noise!

MIKAL MODEBE wrote:
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You are the one who isnt talking right, because to me he is just giving guidlines! So u keep quiet, you are making noise!

All i said is based on science, amhara and oromo tradition and history facts, therefore to say i am not talking right it means that science history facts and above all amhara and oromo traditions culture is all wrong, in fact amhara and oromo do not share the same origin, ask to both 'em... Now it will be usefull if you are able to develop your points since you affirm i am wrong, also because it seems to me you are just giving just your opinion, AND NOTHING MORE

@THE REAL,I am from the Medebay family. In the ancient script, it is my family name who inherited Ethiopia,check it.

I dont know why the google search (Oromo: Trying hard to make us amharas link) stopped opening, but read thru the few words on thru the below link;

www.google.com/m...

Infact follow my story @:

www.facebook.com/profile.php...

MIKAL MODEBE wrote:
@THE REAL,I am from the Medebay family. In the ancient script, it is my family name who inherited Ethiopia,check it.
I dont know why the google search (Oromo: Trying hard to make us amharas link) stopped opening, but read thru the few words on thru the below link;
www.google.com/m...
Infact follow my story @:
www.facebook.com/profile.php...

Anyone who go on google and write whatever thing he wants, then google give all the results about it, this is the only thing you did, aside that, nothing you can do that can challenge my post above who nor you, nor who started the thread are able to destroy it.

haha Amhara culture is only a couple centuries old, it is not an ancient ethnic group. Putting ancient next to amhara is an oxymoron. Amharas have mixed with so many tribes especially from bantu, oromo, and others. they are not the children of ge'ez. that is a joke.
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