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GenPatton wrote:
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Deny and deflect.
Modus operandi confirmed.
when you wish to discuss this honestly please come back.


How come every time I directly refute your accusations you make this claim? When you can't refute the facts you accuse me of denying and dodging them - when in fact I'm PRESENTING them to you.

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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I'm just joining you in your arguments against doing anything to prevent gun violence. Isn't that what this thread is for?


Is that what I said..?...did I really make that argument...?...I have to ask you to show me that now...if you can.

Dang that frustration level is still climbing.

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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My mistake.
There are only two options - 32,000 dead Americans every year or a Godless socialist communist police state.
Better?


LOL....You can use whatever made-up numbers you choose. Just pointing out your misquote from you own numbers.

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Yep, that's what you said. You dismissed all gun deaths except homicide.


Liar

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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I'm just joining you in your arguments against doing anything to prevent gun violence. Isn't that what this thread is for?


Who has made "arguments against doing anything", Danny Boy???

Marauder wrote:
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I know...actions such as yours really makes me sick.


Which actions would those be? Making the same arguments you make?

LOL!

Armed Veteran wrote:
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LOL....You can use whatever made-up numbers you choose. Just pointing out your misquote from you own numbers.


Nothing made up. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people die from gun shots every year in the US?

Marauder wrote:
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Liar


Really? Then what do you call this?
Marauder wrote:
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Well taking away the suicides and the justifiable homicides...

Marauder wrote:
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Is that what I said..?...did I really make that argument...?...I have to ask you to show me that now...if you can.
Dang that frustration level is still climbing.


Oh that's right - I forgot about all the solutions you suggest and how you're constantly advocating that more be done to prevent gun deaths in the US.

Armed Veteran wrote:
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Who has made "arguments against doing anything", Danny Boy???


Ummm, every gunner here. All the time.

Any time anyone suggests any measure to reduce gun deaths in this country, you all argue against them. It's really all you do here. I'm just joining in.

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Nothing made up. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people die from gun shots every year in the US?


How many of those are PREVENTABLE??? How many are from suicides??? How many are justifiable homicide (a GOOD thing)??? How many are accidents??? How many are criminals killing other criminals (also a GOOD thing)??? How many criminals killed by cops??? All are included in that 32,000.

It is a disengenuous number, AND YOU KNOW IT.

satanlives wrote:
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better educated?...bwhahahahhahahahahahahha..... good one moron.....you are obviously one serious dumb f-uk...you must be example of "BETTER EDUCATION" thru ignorance... time for your education...
The Army is meeting its recruiting goals partly by accepting more enlistees who lack high school diplomas, who have low scores on the military's aptitude test or receive waivers for criminal and medical problems.
Army documents obtained by NPR link the lowered standards to a drop since November 2001 in the number of men interested in joining up.
"They are trying to grow the Army during wartime, during an unpopular war, so some of the best recruits are deciding not to come into the Army," NPR's Tom Bowman tells Steve Inskeep.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...


Hahahaha...I love making you look like the dumbass we all know you are. The military consists of more than then branch of the Army anyone who served knows this (Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard).
I find it particular funny that you chose an article dated back to 2008 from NPR (another leftist credible source). Also if anyone reads the article they can clearly see that the journalist is anti-military also he ends it with a suggestion that the Army will have criminals and deserters everywhere. Idiots like you believe that everyone in the Army will be pulling a trigger on the front lines, every Marine is a trained sniper, everyone in the Air Force will be issued their own personal jet to take down bogies and every sailor will have torpedoes at their finger tips ready to launch at a momentís notice. You handpicked false facts about the military and now we know that it was a bunch of lies. Here are some facts for you that aren't made up.
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U.S. Military Better Educated Than Populace It Protects (INFOGRAPHIC)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/mili...
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Also what exactly is your point? We all know that you have nothing but distaste for our men and women in uniform. So where are you going with this? I bet no where.

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Ummm, every gunner here. All the time.
Any time anyone suggests any measure to reduce gun deaths in this country, you all argue against them. It's really all you do here. I'm just joining in.


A BULLSHIT LIE!

Many people here have said that keeping violent criminals behind bars would be a good start. Keeping the violent mentally ill locked up would be a good start. Educating the young on what to do if they find a gun, and the basics of handling a gun (such as not pointing at your own head or pointing at another person), would greatly reduce the number of accidents by children.

On the flip side....passing MORE gun control legislation that would only be followed by law-abiding citizens (gun bans, magazine capacity limits, etc.) wouldn't do a damn thing to reduce ANY of it.

Everyone remember this from last year?

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Cumberland County chief jailer Maj. John McRainey wounded in accidental shooting

The Cumberland County Sheriff's Office chief jailer was wounded Wednesday morning when his gun accidentally discharged, authorities said.

Maj. John R. McRainey was getting ready to leave for work, between 7 and 7:30 a.m., when the gun fired, according to a release from the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office.

McRainey had the .40-caliber semiautomatic handgun packed in a bag that he uses to transport it, the release said. He had put the bag in his vehicle and was getting inside the vehicle when another item in the bag apparently hit the gun, causing it to fire.

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Sad ending to that story....

Cumberland County Sheriff's Office Maj. John McRainey dies at 61

Mr. McRainey, 61, the chief jailer, died in his sleep early Tuesday, Sheriff Moose Butler said.
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Mr. McRainey had been on leave from his duties at the detention center since being severely injured in an accidental shooting in October 2012. His service revolver was inside a bag along with a small flashlight. When Mr. McRainey tossed the bag into his vehicle, it struck an armrest, causing the weapon to fire.

Mr. McRainey was struck in the abdomen and suffered injuries to his intestines and to one of his kidneys, he said in an interview earlier this year.

He spent 129 days in hospitals, had at least eight surgeries and was forced to do dialysis three times a week after his other kidney failed.

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If only he had received proper gun safety training...

barefoot2626 wrote:
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It stands to reason: if you want to ask a question from anyone else, you would lead the way by answering the question yourself first.
Without regard to response.
You dumzazz.
And as we know, answering the question doesn't end there, not for someone so comfortable in asking questions he himself refuses to answer.


Generally when asking a question you wait for the response before continuing.

Armed Veteran wrote:
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How many of those are PREVENTABLE??? How many are from suicides??? How many are justifiable homicide (a GOOD thing)??? How many are accidents??? How many are criminals killing other criminals (also a GOOD thing)??? How many criminals killed by cops??? All are included in that 32,000.
It is a disengenuous number, AND YOU KNOW IT.


So my number was correct? When you claimed I made it up, you weren't telling the truth.

And you're just repeating what Marauder said - those death's don't matter. We have a Second Amendment. People are gonna die. That's just how it is. The only other option is a Godless socialist communist police state.

Armed Veteran wrote:
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A BULLSHIT LIE!
Many people here have said that keeping violent criminals behind bars would be a good start. Keeping the violent mentally ill locked up would be a good start. Educating the young on what to do if they find a gun, and the basics of handling a gun (such as not pointing at your own head or pointing at another person), would greatly reduce the number of accidents by children.
On the flip side....passing MORE gun control legislation that would only be followed by law-abiding citizens (gun bans, magazine capacity limits, etc.) wouldn't do a damn thing to reduce ANY of it.


The most frustrating thing is that the Godless socialist communist libtards are constantly fighting against punishment for crime and treatment for the mentally ill. It's like the WANT 32,000 Americans to die from guns every year.

Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Two-year-old dies after accidentally shooting herself inside Fayetteville home
Fayetteville, N.C. ó A 2-year-old girl died Saturday afternoon after she found a loaded handgun and accidentally shot herself, Fayetteville police said.
Officers responding to the home in the 2600 block of Graham Road found the girl at about 12:30 p.m. She was taken to Cape Fear Valley Medical Center, where she later died.
http://www.wral.com/girl-2-dies-after-being-s...
Unfortunately, according to conservative gun advocates, there's simply nothing that can be done about situations like this. It is simply a necessary side-effect to having a Second Amendment.


The individual who left the firearm unsecured should be charged.

There is something that can be done:

Begin firearm safety in the schools. Teach the rules of safety, including the common sense approach of keeping firearms secure.

It took years to make people understand that household chemicals need to kept out of reach of children, the approach work. We need to apply it to firearms and everything else common sense would suggest.

FormerParatrooper wrote:
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The individual who left the firearm unsecured should be charged.
There is something that can be done:
Begin firearm safety in the schools. Teach the rules of safety, including the common sense approach of keeping firearms secure.
It took years to make people understand that household chemicals need to kept out of reach of children, the approach work. We need to apply it to firearms and everything else common sense would suggest.


I wonder how charging the dead toddler's parents will do any good. Do you think they aren't suffering enough - that they need to be punished more? Do you think others seeing her parents charged will cause them to be more careful with their own guns?

FormerParatrooper wrote:
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The individual who left the firearm unsecured should be charged.
There is something that can be done:
Begin firearm safety in the schools. Teach the rules of safety, including the common sense approach of keeping firearms secure.
It took years to make people understand that household chemicals need to kept out of reach of children, the approach work. We need to apply it to firearms and everything else common sense would suggest.


How about mandatory firearm safety training as a requirement for gun purchases? That would more directly impact the problem than training kids, many of whom will never own a gun and, those who would, are years away from actually buying one. Theoretical education years in the past is much less effective than recent, relevant education.
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